Comments on: When Should Christians Take a Hard Stand Against Sin? http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin when enough gathers, you have to fall somewhere Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Joe aka #1 fan http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin/comment-page-1#comment-6834 Joe aka #1 fan Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:07:58 +0000 http://www.adropofwater.net/?p=928#comment-6834 Please correct me if I am responding to something you didn't say. I will address the two points in opposite order:<br><br>1) I'm not sure what you mean by God doesn't condemn our sins. He forgives us of them, that is true, but only at the cost of Jesus' blood, the ultimate condemnation of sin - death. To say God doesn't condemn them immediately as they happen (which is because they've already been condemned), I'm not sure that is a takeaway behavior that we should implement in our lives. And condemnation does not exclude forgiveness - as we both agree, we're not to judge, but at the same time we're not to overlook/accept.<br><br>2) Re: accepting a behavior. If I poke you non stop from now until forever, and you never tell me to stop, or express some form of distaste/condemnation of my behavior, you're being accepting of it. Doesn't mean you like it, but it means you accept it. When sin exists, and we know it as sin, and we do not condemn it as sin, we're accepting it.<br><br>- Not Joe, Anonymous Non-Liberal Please correct me if I am responding to something you didn't say. I will address the two points in opposite order:

1) I'm not sure what you mean by God doesn't condemn our sins. He forgives us of them, that is true, but only at the cost of Jesus' blood, the ultimate condemnation of sin – death. To say God doesn't condemn them immediately as they happen (which is because they've already been condemned), I'm not sure that is a takeaway behavior that we should implement in our lives. And condemnation does not exclude forgiveness – as we both agree, we're not to judge, but at the same time we're not to overlook/accept.

2) Re: accepting a behavior. If I poke you non stop from now until forever, and you never tell me to stop, or express some form of distaste/condemnation of my behavior, you're being accepting of it. Doesn't mean you like it, but it means you accept it. When sin exists, and we know it as sin, and we do not condemn it as sin, we're accepting it.

- Not Joe, Anonymous Non-Liberal

]]> By: dhoff http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin/comment-page-1#comment-6833 dhoff Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:49:46 +0000 http://www.adropofwater.net/?p=928#comment-6833 RE: First paragraph. I'm not so sure its so straight forward as "to not condemn a behavior, is to accept it" Like ... God doesn't go around condemning each of our sins as we commit them, yet he certainly does not accept them. He's condemned them in other places, if we take the time to look and we find his forgiveness too if we look. So this goes back to my question of How we are suppose to take a hard stance against sin.<br><br>I believe that maybe one example would be associating the sin with the sinner and in turn hating the sinner along with the sin...but you ask a good question and I should come up with some more concrete examples.<br><br>Thanks Joe. RE: First paragraph. I'm not so sure its so straight forward as “to not condemn a behavior, is to accept it” Like … God doesn't go around condemning each of our sins as we commit them, yet he certainly does not accept them. He's condemned them in other places, if we take the time to look and we find his forgiveness too if we look. So this goes back to my question of How we are suppose to take a hard stance against sin.

I believe that maybe one example would be associating the sin with the sinner and in turn hating the sinner along with the sin…but you ask a good question and I should come up with some more concrete examples.

Thanks Joe.

]]> By: Joe aka #1 fan http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin/comment-page-1#comment-6832 Joe aka #1 fan Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:41:50 +0000 http://www.adropofwater.net/?p=928#comment-6832 I'm glad you broke down the question, because otherwise I think it is both overly simple, and uninteresting. When should Christians take a hard stand against sin? When it exists. That is in some ways a joke answer, but there is much truth in it as well. Any other answer means being conditionally accepting of sin, and while we are not to *judge* sin, we're certainly not to encourage it (when one does not condemn a behavior, one is in essence accepting it, if in no other sense than through indifference).<br><br>In regards to the how - what would be an example of sinning while taking a hard stance against sin (other than the obvious and/or comical - beating someone up to tell them it is sinful to beat someone up, etc)?<br><br>- Anonymous Non-Liberal I'm glad you broke down the question, because otherwise I think it is both overly simple, and uninteresting. When should Christians take a hard stand against sin? When it exists. That is in some ways a joke answer, but there is much truth in it as well. Any other answer means being conditionally accepting of sin, and while we are not to *judge* sin, we're certainly not to encourage it (when one does not condemn a behavior, one is in essence accepting it, if in no other sense than through indifference).

In regards to the how – what would be an example of sinning while taking a hard stance against sin (other than the obvious and/or comical – beating someone up to tell them it is sinful to beat someone up, etc)?

- Anonymous Non-Liberal

]]> By: Joe aka #1 fan http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin/comment-page-1#comment-6701 Joe aka #1 fan Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:07:58 +0000 http://www.adropofwater.net/?p=928#comment-6701 Please correct me if I am responding to something you didn't say. I will address the two points in opposite order:<br><br>1) I'm not sure what you mean by God doesn't condemn our sins. He forgives us of them, that is true, but only at the cost of Jesus' blood, the ultimate condemnation of sin - death. To say God doesn't condemn them immediately as they happen (which is because they've already been condemned), I'm not sure that is a takeaway behavior that we should implement in our lives. And condemnation does not exclude forgiveness - as we both agree, we're not to judge, but at the same time we're not to overlook/accept.<br><br>2) Re: accepting a behavior. If I poke you non stop from now until forever, and you never tell me to stop, or express some form of distaste/condemnation of my behavior, you're being accepting of it. Doesn't mean you like it, but it means you accept it. When sin exists, and we know it as sin, and we do not condemn it as sin, we're accepting it.<br><br>- Not Joe, Anonymous Non-Liberal Please correct me if I am responding to something you didn't say. I will address the two points in opposite order:

1) I'm not sure what you mean by God doesn't condemn our sins. He forgives us of them, that is true, but only at the cost of Jesus' blood, the ultimate condemnation of sin – death. To say God doesn't condemn them immediately as they happen (which is because they've already been condemned), I'm not sure that is a takeaway behavior that we should implement in our lives. And condemnation does not exclude forgiveness – as we both agree, we're not to judge, but at the same time we're not to overlook/accept.

2) Re: accepting a behavior. If I poke you non stop from now until forever, and you never tell me to stop, or express some form of distaste/condemnation of my behavior, you're being accepting of it. Doesn't mean you like it, but it means you accept it. When sin exists, and we know it as sin, and we do not condemn it as sin, we're accepting it.

- Not Joe, Anonymous Non-Liberal

]]> By: dhoff http://www.adropofwater.net/archives/when-should-christians-take-a-hard-stand-against-sin/comment-page-1#comment-6700 dhoff Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:49:46 +0000 http://www.adropofwater.net/?p=928#comment-6700 RE: First paragraph. I'm not so sure its so straight forward as "to not condemn a behavior, is to accept it" Like ... God doesn't go around condemning each of our sins as we commit them, yet he certainly does not accept them. He's condemned them in other places, if we take the time to look and we find his forgiveness too if we look. So this goes back to my question of How we are suppose to take a hard stance against sin.<br><br>I believe that maybe one example would be associating the sin with the sinner and in turn hating the sinner along with the sin...but you ask a good question and I should come up with some more concrete examples.<br><br>Thanks Joe. RE: First paragraph. I'm not so sure its so straight forward as “to not condemn a behavior, is to accept it” Like … God doesn't go around condemning each of our sins as we commit them, yet he certainly does not accept them. He's condemned them in other places, if we take the time to look and we find his forgiveness too if we look. So this goes back to my question of How we are suppose to take a hard stance against sin.

I believe that maybe one example would be associating the sin with the sinner and in turn hating the sinner along with the sin…but you ask a good question and I should come up with some more concrete examples.

Thanks Joe.

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